Mika: It Was An ‘Extremely Compelling, Extremely Painful’ Day | Morning Joe | MSNBC


NEWSLETTER.>>THAT DOES IT FOR US.>>THAT DOES IT FOR US. “MORNING JOE” STARTS RIGHT NOW. “MORNING JOE” STARTS RIGHT NOW.>>LAST NIGHT, THE REPUBLICAN>>LAST NIGHT, THE REPUBLICAN STAFF OF THIS COMMITTEE RELEASED STAFF OF THIS COMMITTEE RELEASED TO THE MEDIA A TIMELINE THAT TO THE MEDIA A TIMELINE THAT SHOWS THAT THEY’VE INTERVIEWED SHOWS THAT THEY’VE INTERVIEWED TWO PEOPLE WHO CLAIM THEY WERE TWO PEOPLE WHO CLAIM THEY WERE THE ONES WHO ACTUALLY ASSAULTED THE ONES WHO ACTUALLY ASSAULTED YOU. YOU. I AM ASKING YOU TO ADDRESS THIS I AM ASKING YOU TO ADDRESS THIS NEW DEFENSE OF MISTAKEN IDENTITY NEW DEFENSE OF MISTAKEN IDENTITY DIRECTLY. DIRECTLY. DR. FORD, WITH WHAT DEGREE OF DR. FORD, WITH WHAT DEGREE OF CERTAINTY DO YOU BELIEVE BRETT CERTAINTY DO YOU BELIEVE BRETT KAVANAUGH ASSAULTED YOU 12347. KAVANAUGH ASSAULTED YOU 12347.>>100%.>>100%.>>THE DAY AFTER THE ALLEGATION>>THE DAY AFTER THE ALLEGATION APPEARED, I TOLD THIS COMMITTEE APPEARED, I TOLD THIS COMMITTEE THAT I WANTED A HEARING AS SOON THAT I WANTED A HEARING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO CLEAR MY NAME. AS POSSIBLE TO CLEAR MY NAME. I DEMANDED A HEARING FOR THE I DEMANDED A HEARING FOR THE VERY NEXT DAY. VERY NEXT DAY. UNFORTUNATELY IT TOOK THE UNFORTUNATELY IT TOOK THE COMMITTEE TEN DAYS TO GET TO COMMITTEE TEN DAYS TO GET TO THIS HEARING. THIS HEARING. IN THOSE TEN LONG DAES, MY IN THOSE TEN LONG DAES, MY FAMILY AND MY NAME HAVE BEEN FAMILY AND MY NAME HAVE BEEN TOTALLY AND PERMANENTLY TOTALLY AND PERMANENTLY DESTROYED BY VICIOUS AND FALSE DESTROYED BY VICIOUS AND FALSE ADDITIONAL ACCUSATIONS. ADDITIONAL ACCUSATIONS. THE TEN-DAY DELAY HAS BEEN THE TEN-DAY DELAY HAS BEEN HARMFUL TO ME AND MY FAMILY, TO HARMFUL TO ME AND MY FAMILY, TO THE SUPREME COURT, AND TO THE THE SUPREME COURT, AND TO THE COUNTRY. COUNTRY.>>IT WAS NEARLY NINE HOURS OF>>IT WAS NEARLY NINE HOURS OF EXTREMELY EMOTIONAL TESTIMONY EXTREMELY EMOTIONAL TESTIMONY YESTERDAY FROM DR. CHRISTINE YESTERDAY FROM DR. CHRISTINE BLAS BLAS BLAS BLAS BLASEY FORD AND DR. BRETT BLASEY FORD AND DR. BRETT KAVANAUGH. KAVANAUGH. WILLIE SUMMED IT UP THIS WILLIE SUMMED IT UP THIS MORNING, IN THE ABSENCE OF NEW MORNING, IN THE ABSENCE OF NEW EVIDENCE, HOW DO COLLINS, EVIDENCE, HOW DO COLLINS, MURKOWSKI, FLAKE, ET AL. CHOOSE MURKOWSKI, FLAKE, ET AL. CHOOSE BETWEEN A SMART, POISED WOMAN BETWEEN A SMART, POISED WOMAN CLAIMING ADAMANTLY SHE WAS CLAIMING ADAMANTLY SHE WAS ASSAULTED BY HE BRETT KAVANAUGH ASSAULTED BY HE BRETT KAVANAUGH AND TWO A PUBLIC SERVANT AND TWO A PUBLIC SERVANT UNEQUIVOCALLY DENYING IT WAS UNEQUIVOCALLY DENYING IT WAS HIM? HIM? THE COMMITTEE IS SCHEDULED TO THE COMMITTEE IS SCHEDULED TO MEET AT 9:30 THIS MORNING WHERE MEET AT 9:30 THIS MORNING WHERE THEY ARE STILL EXPECTED TO VOTE. THEY ARE STILL EXPECTED TO VOTE. WELCOME TO “MORNING JOE.” WELCOME TO “MORNING JOE.” IT IS FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 28th. IT IS FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 28th. ALONG WITH JOE, WILLIE AND ME WE ALONG WITH JOE, WILLIE AND ME WE HAVE SUSAN DELPERCIO, FORMER HAVE SUSAN DELPERCIO, FORMER U.S. DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND MSNBC U.S. DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR JOYCE ADVANCE AND CONTRIBUTOR JOYCE ADVANCE AND COLUMNIST AND ASSOCIATE EDITOR COLUMNIST AND ASSOCIATE EDITOR OF “THE WASHINGTON POST” AND OF “THE WASHINGTON POST” AND MISIN CONNECTION MISIN CONNECTION MSNBC COLUMNIST EUGENE. MSNBC COLUMNIST EUGENE. WHAT A WEEK IT HAS BEEN. WHAT A WEEK IT HAS BEEN. IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE DAY IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE DAY YESTERDAY. YESTERDAY.>>WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?>>WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? LET’S START WITH DR. FORD. LET’S START WITH DR. FORD.>>EXTREMELY COMPELLING.>>EXTREMELY COMPELLING. EXTREMELY PAINFUL. EXTREMELY PAINFUL. I HAD TEARS IN MY EYES DURING I HAD TEARS IN MY EYES DURING BOTH OPENING STATEMENTS. BOTH OPENING STATEMENTS.>>AND LET ME ASK YOU A>>AND LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. QUESTION. YESTERDAY IT WAS AN YESTERDAY IT WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY DAY. EXTRAORDINARY DAY. AND YOU WERE, YOU WERE TEARING AND YOU WERE, YOU WERE TEARING UP. UP. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF TIMES I THERE WERE A COUPLE OF TIMES I WAS COUGHING TEARING UP. WAS COUGHING TEARING UP. WHAT IS THE LAST POLITICAL EVENT WHAT IS THE LAST POLITICAL EVENT THAT YOU CAN REMEMBER YOU WERE THAT YOU CAN REMEMBER YOU WERE TEARING UP, OTHER THAN EVERY TEARING UP, OTHER THAN EVERY TIME BARACK OBAMA GIVES A TIME BARACK OBAMA GIVES A SPEECH. SPEECH. NO. NO. WELL, I CRIED WHEN BARACK OBAMA WELL, I CRIED WHEN BARACK OBAMA GAVE SPEECHES FOR COMPLETELY GAVE SPEECHES FOR COMPLETELY DIFFERENT REASON. DIFFERENT REASON.>>NO, YOU DIDN’T.>>NO, YOU DIDN’T.>>BUT WHAT AN EXTRAORDINARY>>BUT WHAT AN EXTRAORDINARY DAY, WHAT AN EMOTIONAL DAY. DAY, WHAT AN EMOTIONAL DAY. YOU WERE TEARING UP DURING THE YOU WERE TEARING UP DURING THE HER TESTIMONY AND DURING HIS HER TESTIMONY AND DURING HIS TESTIMONY AND HIS WIFE. TESTIMONY AND HIS WIFE.>>THAT WAS THE THING.>>THAT WAS THE THING. AND I WOULD GO ON TWITTER SAYING AND I WOULD GO ON TWITTER SAYING IS MOST HORRIBLE THINGS, TAKING IS MOST HORRIBLE THINGS, TAKING SIDES, AND I FELT UNCOMFORTABLE SIDES, AND I FELT UNCOMFORTABLE WATCHING THIS WHOLE THING. WATCHING THIS WHOLE THING. AND I COULDN’T HELP BUT BELIEVE AND I COULDN’T HELP BUT BELIEVE EVERY STEP OF THE DAY YESTERDAY EVERY STEP OF THE DAY YESTERDAY THAT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT DONALD THAT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT DONALD TRUMP WANTS. TRUMP WANTS. AND WHAT HE’S BEEN WORKING FOR AND WHAT HE’S BEEN WORKING FOR SINCE HE DECIDED TO RUN FOR SINCE HE DECIDED TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT. PRESIDENT. HE SOWS DOUBT, HE DEFAMES HE SOWS DOUBT, HE DEFAMES PEOPLE, AND HE LOVES PITTING PEOPLE, AND HE LOVES PITTING PEOPLE AGAINST EACH OTHER. PEOPLE AGAINST EACH OTHER. AND I FEEL LIKE DEMOCRATS AND AND I FEEL LIKE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS ARE FALLING FOR REPUBLICANS ARE FALLING FOR WHATEVER JOKE HE HAS PLAYED ON WHATEVER JOKE HE HAS PLAYED ON THIS CUP. THIS CUP. AND I DO AGREE WITH BRETT AND I DO AGREE WITH BRETT KAVANAUGH, THIS IS A CIRCUS AND KAVANAUGH, THIS IS A CIRCUS AND WE’RE NOT GOING TO GET TO THE WE’RE NOT GOING TO GET TO THE TRUTH THIS WAY. TRUTH THIS WAY. I WAS EXTREMELY SAD FOR POLITICS I WAS EXTREMELY SAD FOR POLITICS AND THE MEDIA YESTERDAY. AND THE MEDIA YESTERDAY.>>IF YOU CAN NOT WATCH BOTH OF>>IF YOU CAN NOT WATCH BOTH OF THESE HUMAN BEINGS SUFFERING AND THESE HUMAN BEINGS SUFFERING AND NOT FEEL EMPATHY FOR THEM, THEN NOT FEEL EMPATHY FOR THEM, THEN YOU WERE SO BIAS AND YOU WERE SO YOU WERE SO BIAS AND YOU WERE SO SOLD INTO YOUR POLITICAL SIDE SOLD INTO YOUR POLITICAL SIDE AND YOU SO DETERMINED WHAT YOU AND YOU SO DETERMINED WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO BELIEVE, THAN YOU WERE GOING TO BELIEVE, THAN YOU REALLY SHOULDN’T BE REPORTING. REALLY SHOULDN’T BE REPORTING.>>BUT THE REACTION TO DR. FORD>>BUT THE REACTION TO DR. FORD AND THE — THE PASSION THAT AND THE — THE PASSION THAT WOMEN FEEL RIGHT NOW FOR HER, IT WOMEN FEEL RIGHT NOW FOR HER, IT IS DUE TO TRUMP. IS DUE TO TRUMP. WE HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO HAS BEEN WE HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND ACCUSED OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND ASSAULT AND CLAIMS HE DOES IT. ASSAULT AND CLAIMS HE DOES IT. AND WE ARE, I THINK, AND WE ARE, I THINK, COLLECTIVELY AT THIS POINT — COLLECTIVELY AT THIS POINT — BUT MIKA, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO BUT MIKA, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT I JUST SAID? DO WITH WHAT I JUST SAID?>>BECAUSE ONE WOMAN IS STEPPING>>BECAUSE ONE WOMAN IS STEPPING UP AND BEING HEARD AND WE UP AND BEING HEARD AND WE BELIEVE HER. BELIEVE HER. WE WANT TO HEAR HER. WE WANT TO HEAR HER. YET THERE ARE FACTS THAT ARE YET THERE ARE FACTS THAT ARE UNDISPUTABLE. UNDISPUTABLE. THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTS AND THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTS AND CHALLENGES TO THIS CASE AND IT’S CHALLENGES TO THIS CASE AND IT’S PAINFUL TO WATCH PEOPLE DIGGING PAINFUL TO WATCH PEOPLE DIGGING IN. IN. SO I DON’T THINK IN THIS ARENA SO I DON’T THINK IN THIS ARENA WE WILL KNOW THE TRUTH. WE WILL KNOW THE TRUTH. AND I THINK THE WEAKNESS YOU AND I THINK THE WEAKNESS YOU POINTED OUT IN REALTIME WAS HIM POINTED OUT IN REALTIME WAS HIM NOT SAYING HE COULD TOTALLY NOT SAYING HE COULD TOTALLY ACCEPT AN INVESTIGATION. ACCEPT AN INVESTIGATION. THAT WAS THE BIGGEST HOLE. THAT WAS THE BIGGEST HOLE.>>LET’S GET TO THAT.>>LET’S GET TO THAT. I WANT TO MAKE MY BIGGER POINT I WANT TO MAKE MY BIGGER POINT AND I’LL SAY IT AGAIN. AND I’LL SAY IT AGAIN. IF YOU WATCHED THE OPENING IF YOU WATCHED THE OPENING STATEMENTS AND YOU DIDN’T HAVE STATEMENTS AND YOU DIDN’T HAVE EMPATHY FOR BOTH OF THOSE PEOPLE EMPATHY FOR BOTH OF THOSE PEOPLE AND YOU IMMEDIATELY WENT ON AND YOU IMMEDIATELY WENT ON TWITTER AND STARTED TRASHING TWITTER AND STARTED TRASHING THEM THE BASED ON YOUR POLITICAL THEM THE BASED ON YOUR POLITICAL AFFILIATION, YOU SHOULDN’T BE A AFFILIATION, YOU SHOULDN’T BE A REPORTER. REPORTER. YOU’RE TOO BIAS. YOU’RE TOO BIAS. I DIDN’T SUPPORT CAVANAUGH. I DIDN’T SUPPORT CAVANAUGH. I EXPRESSED WELL WELL BEFORE I EXPRESSED WELL WELL BEFORE THIS. THIS. IF HE BELIEVES WHAT HE SAYS AND IF HE BELIEVES WHAT HE SAYS AND HIS LIFE HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY HIS LIFE HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED AND HIS FAEM’S DESTROYED AND HIS FAEM’S REPUTATION HAS BEEN DESTROYED REPUTATION HAS BEEN DESTROYED AND HIS CHILDREN HAVE SAID TO AND HIS CHILDREN HAVE SAID TO DESTROY THIS, WHAT PUBLIC FIGURE DESTROY THIS, WHAT PUBLIC FIGURE CAN’T FEEL FOR THAT PERSON? CAN’T FEEL FOR THAT PERSON? I KNOW, WILLIE, WE WERE TALKING I KNOW, WILLIE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND TALKED ABOUT HOW ABOUT THIS AND TALKED ABOUT HOW COMPELLING DR. FORD WAS. COMPELLING DR. FORD WAS. AND BRETT KAVANAUGH, TALK ABOUT AND BRETT KAVANAUGH, TALK ABOUT THAT. THAT. BUT ALSO, THERE WAS A DEFINING BUT ALSO, THERE WAS A DEFINING MOMENT WHERE SORT OF THE MOMENT WHERE SORT OF THE GUARD.DROPPED FOR GUARD.DROPPED FOR BRETT CAVANAUGH AND HE GOT ON BRETT CAVANAUGH AND HE GOT ON THEIVE AND IT JUST DIDN’T MAKE THEIVE AND IT JUST DIDN’T MAKE SENSE. SENSE.>>I THINK WHEN SENATOR DURBIN>>I THINK WHEN SENATOR DURBIN CONFRONTED HIM WITH WHY NOT HAVE CONFRONTED HIM WITH WHY NOT HAVE AN FBI INVESTIGATION, THINGS AN FBI INVESTIGATION, THINGS STARTED TO UNRAVEL FOR HIM. STARTED TO UNRAVEL FOR HIM. IF YOU LOOK AT HIS TONE AND IF YOU LOOK AT HIS TONE AND POSTURE AFTER THAT, HE WENT BACK POSTURE AFTER THAT, HE WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH SENATOR AND FORTH WITH SENATOR FEINSTEIN. FEINSTEIN. HE LOOKED MORE THAN DEFENSIVE AT HE LOOKED MORE THAN DEFENSIVE AT THAT POINT. THAT POINT.>>IT WASN’T A PERRY MASON>>IT WASN’T A PERRY MASON MOMENT, BUT IF THESE HEARINGS MOMENT, BUT IF THESE HEARINGS HAD A PERRY MASON MOMENT, THAT HAD A PERRY MASON MOMENT, THAT WAS IT. WAS IT. AND IT’S NOT GOING TO CHANGE A AND IT’S NOT GOING TO CHANGE A SINGLE VOTE. SINGLE VOTE. THE PEOPLE THAT WERE GOING TO THE PEOPLE THAT WERE GOING TO VOTE FOR CAVANAUGH BEFORE ARE VOTE FOR CAVANAUGH BEFORE ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM AFTER. GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM AFTER. I STILL DON’T KNOW WHO IS I STILL DON’T KNOW WHO IS TELLING THE TRUTH AND WHO IS TELLING THE TRUTH AND WHO IS NOT. NOT. NOBODY DOES. NOBODY DOES. BUT THAT WAS A MOMENT WHERE YOU BUT THAT WAS A MOMENT WHERE YOU JUST SAID IT MAKES NO SENSE THAT JUST SAID IT MAKES NO SENSE THAT HE AND EVERY REPUBLICAN ARE HE AND EVERY REPUBLICAN ARE AFRAID TO HAVE AN FBI — THEY AFRAID TO HAVE AN FBI — THEY CAN TALK ABOUT DELAY. CAN TALK ABOUT DELAY. IT’S A WEEK. IT’S A WEEK. THE WORLD KNOWS WHAT THAT IS THE WORLD KNOWS WHAT THAT IS ABOUT. ABOUT. THEY DON’T WANT THE FBI TO TALK THEY DON’T WANT THE FBI TO TALK TO MARK JUDGE. TO MARK JUDGE.>>AND WE’VE SAID THAT FOR A>>AND WE’VE SAID THAT FOR A WEEK AND A HALF NOW SINCE WE’VE WEEK AND A HALF NOW SINCE WE’VE FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS. FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS. IF YOU WERE BRETT KAVANAUGH, IF YOU WERE BRETT KAVANAUGH, WOULDN’T YOU WANT A THIRD PARTY WOULDN’T YOU WANT A THIRD PARTY TO LOOK AT THIS JUST SO YOU TO LOOK AT THIS JUST SO YOU COULD POINT AT IT AND SAY DON’T COULD POINT AT IT AND SAY DON’T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. TAKE THE FBI’S WORD FOR IT. TAKE THE FBI’S WORD FOR IT. HE WAS GIVEN THAT CHANCE I HE WAS GIVEN THAT CHANCE I BELIEVE 19 TIMES. BELIEVE 19 TIMES. HE WAS ASKED, DO YOU WANT THE HE WAS ASKED, DO YOU WANT THE FBI TO LOOK AT IT? FBI TO LOOK AT IT?>>YOU KNOW WHAT?>>YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU WOULD DO THAT THE FIRST DAY. YOU WOULD DO THAT THE FIRST DAY. IF YOU WERE SAYING THIS THE IF YOU WERE SAYING THIS THE ABOUT ME, I WOULD SAY BRING IN ABOUT ME, I WOULD SAY BRING IN THE FBI. THE FBI. I WANT THEM IN RIGHT NOW. I WANT THEM IN RIGHT NOW. I WANT — YOU KNOW WHAT? I WANT — YOU KNOW WHAT? BRING IN THE NSA. BRING IN THE NSA. BRING IN EVERYBODY YOU CAN BRING BRING IN EVERYBODY YOU CAN BRING IN. IN. INVESTIGATE IT NOW. INVESTIGATE IT NOW. BUT THE EXCUSES, OH, THEY’VE BUT THE EXCUSES, OH, THEY’VE ALREADY DONE SIX ON THIS? ALREADY DONE SIX ON THIS? LISTEN, AND THEY SAID OH, BUT LISTEN, AND THEY SAID OH, BUT MARK JUDGE HAS — THIS IS A GUY MARK JUDGE HAS — THIS IS A GUY THAT IS A RECOVERING ALCOHOLIC THAT IS A RECOVERING ALCOHOLIC AND A LOT OF OTHER ISSUES. AND A LOT OF OTHER ISSUES. HE’S NOT GOING TO LIE. HE’S NOT GOING TO LIE.>>EXACTLY.>>EXACTLY. AND THEY DON’T WANT THAT. AND THEY DON’T WANT THAT. THE FAILURE TO HAVE AN FBI THE FAILURE TO HAVE AN FBI INVESTIGATION WHICH BOTH SIDES INVESTIGATION WHICH BOTH SIDES COULD PUT FAITH INTO IT, AT COULD PUT FAITH INTO IT, AT LEAST A MEASURE OF FAITH INTO LEAST A MEASURE OF FAITH INTO IT, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE IT, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE CONDUCTED ON SORT OF AN EQUAL CONDUCTED ON SORT OF AN EQUAL BASIS. BASIS. IT’S NOT MY POLYGRAPH TEST. IT’S NOT MY POLYGRAPH TEST. IT’S NOT MY AFFIDAVITS. IT’S NOT MY AFFIDAVITS. IT’S THE FBI’S FINDINGS, IT’S THE FBI’S FINDINGS, WHATEVER THEY MAY BE. WHATEVER THEY MAY BE. WITHOUT THAT, HALF THE COUNTRY WITHOUT THAT, HALF THE COUNTRY IS GOING TO THINK THE IS GOING TO THINK THE INVESTIGATION IS ILLEGITIMATE. INVESTIGATION IS ILLEGITIMATE.>>CAN SOMEBODY TELL LINDSEY>>CAN SOMEBODY TELL LINDSEY GRAHAM HE CAN SCREAM AS LOUD AS GRAHAM HE CAN SCREAM AS LOUD AS HE WANTS. HE WANTS. IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT AND IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT AND IT WILL NOT DISTRACT AMERICANS IT WILL NOT DISTRACT AMERICANS FROM THE FACT THAT THEY’RE JUST FROM THE FACT THAT THEY’RE JUST TRYING TO RUSH THIS THROUGH AS TRYING TO RUSH THIS THROUGH AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THEY QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT ANYTHING ELSE TO COME DON’T WANT ANYTHING ELSE TO COME UP AND THEY DON’T WANT THE FBI UP AND THEY DON’T WANT THE FBI TO HAVE THREE DAYS TO TALK TO TO HAVE THREE DAYS TO TALK TO MARK JUDGE. MARK JUDGE. THEY COULD START IT TODAY AND BE THEY COULD START IT TODAY AND BE DONE BY SUNDAY NIGHT.

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